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.ca. Kerry, Thanks for the blog, always a great read. I was just wondering about
the something that happened in the Leafs/Canes game. So in the second period,
Paul Ranger and Alex Semin took minors at the same stoppage. The game then went
to 4-on-4, until Dion Phaneuf took a hooking penalty. This made it 4-on-3 for
the Canes, which they proceeded to score on and Phaneuf came out of the box. My
question is why did Phaneuf come out of the box instead of Ranger? And why does
the NHL go to 4-on-4 instead of keeping it 5 on 5 and having the players wait
for a whistle? Thanks again, look forward to continuing to read your
blog. Thanks,Alex Gane Hey Alex: I hope everyone celebrated a wonderful
Christmas with family and friends. CMon Ref is thrilled to return after a break
for the holiday week. Thanks also to those that visited me @kfraserthecall on
twitter with your questions from games during that period! The answer to your
specific question Alex is found in Rule 19 (coincidental penalties) which
states, "When one minor penalty is assessed to one player of each team at the
same stoppage in play, these penalties will be served without substitution
provided there are no other penalties in effect and visible on the penalty
clocks. Both teams will therefore play four skaters against four skaters for the
duration of the minor penalties." In your example, one minor penalty was
assessed to one player of each team (Paul Ranger of the Leafs and Alex Semin of
the Hurricanes) with no other previous penalties visible on the time clock.
Semin and Rangers minor penalty times were therefore placed on the clock and
served as per the rule. It is important to note the while the teams play 4 on 4
as a result of the one minor penalty to each player at the same stoppage it does
not create a short-handed situation. From Rule 16, short-handed means that the
team must be below the numerical strength of its opponent on the ice at the time
the goal was scored. The minor or bench minor penalty which terminates is the
one with the least amount of time on the clock. Thus coincident minor penalties
to both Teams do not cause either side to be "short-handed." The formula used to
determine minor penalty expiration when goals are scored against a short-handed
team is as follows: i) Is the team scored against short-handed? ii) Is the team
scored against serving a minor penalty on the clock? If both criteria are
satisfied, the minor penalty with the least amount of time on the clock shall
terminate except when coincidental penalties are being served. The penalty that
caused the Leafs to become short-handed was the subsequent minor penalty
assessed to Dion Phaneuf. Once the Canes power-play goal was scored the Leafs
were entitled to relief by virtue of Phaneufs minor penalty. Why does the NHL
not treat the minor penalties to Paul Ranger and Alex Semin as coincidental and
play 5 on 5 you ask? The coincidental minor penalty rule has in fact changed
back a forth since the mid 1980s. The Edmonton Oiler young guns led by
Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier and the cast of future Hall of Fame players were
primarily responsible for the initial change from minor penalties being served
(4 on 4 hockey) to being treated as coincidental (5-on-5). In late stages of a
game with the score either tied or close, a huge advantage resulted for the
skilled Oiler players when more ice space was created by a 4 on 4 situation. No
one recognized this more than Oiler coach Glen Sather. One of his players would
intelligently initiate an altercation or scrum with an opponent where punches
were exchanged and a minor penalty to each player was assessed by the referee.
The Oiler stars were even more difficult to contain with the extra ice afforded
them which often resulted in the scoring of a goal. Eventually the rule was
changed to its present form. We also see the entertaining benefits derived from
4 on 4 hockey during overtime in the regular season. Referees have also been
instructed to penalize the instigator or aggressor in a scrum wherever possible
to act as a deterrent.
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. Anthony Davis had 31 points and 17 rebounds in his seventh straight game with
more than 20 points, but that was only enough to keep the Pelicans competitive
into the final minutes. Andrew Bogut had 10 points and 15 rebounds for Golden
State, which rebounded from a loss a night earlier in Oklahoma City and snapped
a two-game skid.With Hockey Canadas Olympic orientation camp underway in
Calgary, the NHL on TSN took an early look at which players should make the
final roster and represent the country in February in Russia. There was no lock
in net, but Vancouver Games starter Roberto Luongo is considered a favourite to
make the team. "It doesnt seem like anyones way out in front but its hard to
believe, given the comments Mike Babcock made, that Robert Luongo wouldnt be on
this team," said NHL on TSN analyst Ray Ferraro. "Babcock talked about how hes
proud of the way Luongo has handled this past year and that hes a winner. Hes
won before (in Vancover)." Experience appears to be a big factor in determining
which three goalies coaches will ultimately go with. "You do also have some
World Championship experience in Mike Smith and they believe that Carey Price is
going to find a way to have a better year for the Montreal Canadiens," added TSN
Hockey Insider Darren Dreger. "The top three would be Luongo, Price, and Smith."
Duncan Keith, Drew Doughty, and Shea Weber were considered locks on defence by
the panel while four players favoured to make the team included
Alex Pietrangelo, PK Subban, Kris Letang, and a potential surprise in
Jay Bouwmeester. "Even though Bouwmeesters game isnt as dynamic as Subbans, even
though it doesnt have as much bite as Letangs game, he plays really well on the
big ice," said NHL on TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie. "When hes played in the
World Championship, hes fared very well. He defends very well and when youve got
the wheels and the ability to move the puck the way that Bouwmeester does, I
think its natural that he is one of the favourites to slot right in behind
Keith, Doughty, and Weber. Ferraro added another potentially surprise candidate
to make the team in Vancouver Canucks blueliner Dan Hamhuis. "When Kevin Lowee
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defencemen making the squad. "There is a lot of gamble defensively in Subbans
and Letangs game but youre looking at a Norris Trophy winner so I think Subban
has the edge." Up front there were a number of locks, especially at the centre
position where Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews, Ryan Getzlaf, Claude Giroux, and
John Tavares all figure to make the team. With so many centres, line
combinations could pose a problem for coaches. "As much as Babcock would like to
play players in their comfortable position, I dont see any way around the fact
theyre going to have to move centres to the wing." Wingers Eric Staal,
Rick Nash, Steven Stamkos, and Patrice Bergeron were also considered locks by
the panel while Corey Perry and Martin St. Louis were added to the depth chart
as favourites. As for the few positions up for grabs, McKenzie said players
whose games are tailored towards the big ice could hold the advantage. "Its
going to be interesting. The decisions that were made last time – Mike Richards
played the wing last time and was really effective – this time around, does the
big ice work against Richards and in the favour of Jeff Carter who was
effectively the last cut for Team Canada up front last time around? The first
three months of the NHL season will be the final audition for the players but it
appears there may be a lot players competing for few positions.
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