TORONTO - Blue Jays manager John Gibbons sat down with TSN.
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against the Kansas City Royals to discuss his status, the degree to which
leadership matters in baseball, and whether hell make significant adjustments to
next Februarys spring training schedule. Listen to the interview here or read
the transcript below. TSN.ca: Some heat around here, John, the hot seat is a
little warm. Look, its been a tough year. Im giving you an opportunity to say
your piece. Youre on the hot seat. Is it fair? Is it unfair? Does fairness
matter? GIBBONS: Scott, fairness doesnt matter. Thats the business were in. Its
the entertainment business but its serious sports. I dont get caught up in all
of that to be honest with you. Yeah, it hurts, nobody likes to be ripped and
things like that but on the flip side of that, Im responsible for what happens
with this team on the field and it hasnt been a good year. You just grind it
out. Ive said before, I show up every day and its a new day. You go out there, I
love competing. You go out there and try to win that game and do the best job
you can. At the end of the day, you know, all the decisions you make, do they
all work? Of course not. Some of the best decisions you make backfire on you.
Some of the worst ones you make, you come out smelling like a rose. Thats just
the way the game is but you deal with it, you learn to deal with it, you expect
it and if you cant handle it, youre in trouble. TSN.ca: You look at this team
heading into the offseason, and Alex has said youre going to be back next year
so you have that security, the support of your general manager, which we knew
that you had. Can this team, as currently constituted, come back in spring
training and head into next April and be a winning group? GIBBONS: Scott, we
like the core group of this team. Theres no question, we liked it going into
this year with all the big moves made and we still like it. But we have to make
some additions to upgrade some areas, thats no secret. In saying that, thats not
always easy. Alex, weve talked about it, I think everybody understands its
pretty obvious what we need to do and hell attempt to do that. Its not easy
because you go around to most teams in the game, theyre basically in a lot of
ways. One thing about Alex, hes tireless, hes not afraid to make some things
happen and hell put his best foot forward. Its still a good group out there but
theres no question to be a better team we need to make a few changes. TSN.ca:
When you assess this season, John, that 11-game win streak stands out obviously
as the high point and there have been some down points both before that and
after that. So lets talk about that 11-game win streak. Does that tell you that
theres something in there that we just havent seen enough of or was that an
outlier? Because a lot of teams dont win 11 in a row, not even the best.
GIBBONS: No question about that. What really happened there is it all came
together for that period of time. We pitched well during that stretch, you know
we played good, solid defence and the bats, we were swinging the bats. It was
one of those stretches when everything was clicking. You dont always get that
over the season. Some stretches you pitch well and youre not hitting and the
defence, the defence needs to be the constant. Youre going to have some bad
games but thats one thing you can control a little bit of. That needs to be
there every day. Pitching and offence can be hit or miss but for that stretch,
it all came together for a length of time there. Everybody goes through those
ups and downs but you know what those good teams do, they may not have the
11-game streak but theres more consistency throughout the year. The best teams
in baseball go through their down stretches where theyll lose five, six,
sometimes seven games in a row, something like that. Thats because maybe theyre
not pitching good, their bats went silent or whatever it is. Over 162 games,
thats the norm but the better teams, they do it better and they generally, their
pitching day in and day out gives you a shot. When we talk about good pitching,
it doesnt mean you have to go out and throw shutouts every night but its really,
they keep you in the game and give you a shot and let your offence maybe take
over. In fairness to our pitching also this year, we havent played good enough
defence at times and theyve suffered for that. Im not just talking about errors
and things like that. I mean, there are some balls we havent gotten to that you
really need to at this level. Some double plays you need to turn at the big
league level to bail you out of a tough inning that we havent always done. Lets
face it, at the big league level, you have to take away hits, too. You need the
routine play made but you know what, you still need to take away hits because
thats what the better teams do. TSN.ca: In hockey, theres a player on each team
that wears a C and that denotes leadership. What value do you place on
leadership in such an individual sport like baseball? GIBBONS: Thats a good
question that will always be debated. First off, youre not going to win anything
without talent, in any sport, thats just a given. But still there needs to be a
couple of guys, they have to be guys with credentials, those are the guys they
look to, and youve got to be able to snap somebody back in place, snap a team
back in and say, Listen, were not doing this well, lets go guys, lets pick it up
and things like that. If its always got to be the manager or the coach, I mean
its not going to work. Sooner or later, if you talk too much, they tune you out.
Its just like your own children or your teacher at school, whatever it might be,
talk is cheap and if you have to do it too often, apparently somebodys not
listening. It always helps to have a couple of guys on a team, they take that
role whether they like it or not and its not always talking, its how they carry
themselves and their actions. That can be very valuable. That point will
probably always be debated because Ive been on some teams where you have a bunch
of renegades, you know talented teams but it can be a mess but yet they play as
a team, they show up to win and that usually overrides the day. TSN.ca: The kids
that have come up have injected, I guess, some refreshing air into the
environment here. What have you seen, I guess you take your pick on who you want
to talk about but what have you seen from Goins, Gose, Pillar and Sierra?
GIBBONS: Ive been really, pleasantly surprised. Theyve all helped one way or the
other and theyre doing a nice job. Like Ive said before, some guys never get
opportunities in this game so when you get it, you know you may only get one so
take advantage of it. Theyre all showing us something right now. Goins has been
in the spotlight lately with some great defensive plays and some big hits. Hes
really doing everything right now. You know, Gosey, (Friday) night had the big
triple to set up an inning in a tight ball game to plate a big run for us and
hes playing great defence and throwing his hits in along the way. Pillar, its
been kind of hit or miss for him, he hasnt really settled in offensively but you
look, hes been a good base runner, hes been good in the outfielder and things
like that. Sierra, hes starting to heat up a little bit. When he keeps his swing
under control, theres a lot in that bat. Hes a good, solid outfielder with a
great arm. He can be a difference maker with that arm. Theyve all, one way or
another, done some things to benefit us and you get excited about that and youre
happy for them because, like I said, there are only so many opportunities you
get in this business so it always helps to make that good impression and theyre
all doing that. TSN.ca: Next year cant be this year with the record. The
expectations were high coming in and you havent lived up to them this season. Do
you change your approach at all heading into spring training next year? Do you
make some adjustments next season based on what youve seen out of the group this
year to give yourself a better chance to have a better record? GIBBONS: What you
always do, game-to-game, you reflect on the game and from a managers standpoint,
what might have I done different that might have affected the outcome, this and
that. Youre constantly doing that and of course, at the end of the year and were
getting there, you always reflect and think you know what, maybe we need to do
this, more of this, less of that, what have you. Going into spring training,
there will be some adjustments that will be made. Well look at the personnel and
well deal with that. We were ready coming out of spring training, no doubt in my
mind, we just didnt play well. We just didnt handle expectations well, whether
we were a little bit tight, what have you, thats just the way it went. But you
need to make some adjustments and do some things to change some things because
theres no question that, you know, you need a better year next year. A lot was
put into this team and we were really hyped up, as we should have been,
everybody liked all the moves and there were a number of them. We like the group
that we have, of course there needs to be some additions, but you know were
always optimistic. Like Ive said before, the fans have turned out this year.
Theyve done their part of it and this place will explode with a winning team out
there and we dont think were that far off and this city and this country deserve
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